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jane bong ([personal profile] prizefig) wrote in [personal profile] rhodochrosite 2021-05-21 01:54 pm (UTC)

AND IT SHOWS LOL... but worry not, this is just from my years of knowing you, i don't think you're beyond subtlety about it.

i did just wrack my brain trying to list all my favorite ships from various fandoms and it was kinda no_correlation.jpg or maybe there is a correlation and i'm just not seeing it 🤷‍♀️ i really related to your tweet about this post that was like "all ships i like have in common is that i like them" lmao, so idk if it's worth a post just yet.

yeah, as the society destabilizer in question i guess it should come as no surprise that i enjoy subverting and complicating the established (or like, "established" if it's ad hoc) power structure. maybe this is leaning more into haterism, but the most compelling sub-categories you listed under powerdynamixshipping to me were the leader x lancer and the leader x 2ic particularly with an ideological clash that causes tension in their relationship. it's actually true that haterism is the most romantic thing in the world, imo.

fully agree re: any enemies dynamix implicitly including To Lovers and that they can simultaneously be enemies and lovers (for any given value of lovers). again, for me it's the ambivalence of being attached to someone but not being able to be with them and how to navigate that. i'm not really super interested in childhood friends to enemies because i guess shared pasts are less compelling to me than shared futures, going from not knowing each other to Knowing each other. or maybe it's just that the shared past has to be equally complicated and friendship alone doesn't cut it.

i'm rereading what you wrote about not knowing each other and finding myself agreeing with it, but it's not really the not knowing each other that draws me in it's the forced intimacy that uhhh forces them to know each other. situational proximity, relationships of necessity/convenience, codependence, etc, are all really good to me. i'm p sure this is the case for you as well, but you're putting the emphasis on the not knowing each other/shared past and i'm putting the emphasis on the forced intimacy/shared future. there really should be something instead of nothing imo!!!

re: narrativeshipping and 2pickshipping, i think i actually come to 2pickshipping via narrativeshipping (for fpf at least) where a lot of my ships will be my fav x their fav (or anyone they have a sufficiently complicated and intense relationship with) and that becomes my 2pick because i'll just get invested in the second person anyway. i do get pretty lucky often in that the characters i'm initially drawn to tend to have interesting dynamix going on, so i can't think of any instances where i've actually 2picked people who straight up did not know each other. at least until kpop, and even then there's the built in forced intimacy that provides a baseline of knowingness and makes fabricating dynamix easy enough. but even then, my favs' favs get guaranteed free spots at the top of my bias list via adjacency goodwill.

ok so obviously at this point it's pretty clear that Knowing Each Other is super important to me, which i've mentioned before ("you're the only one who knows me, babe" is the most romantic thing in the world) which explains the draw of selfcest and related dynamix... it really is about not just acknowledgment of sameness or recognition of self through the other but profound understanding, or at least attempting to get there. that said, i think one of the other things that ties a lot of my ships together is taboo/transgression... which kinda goes without saying lol... i already said this to you before, but you know i love people who fuck when there are reasons that they shouldn't.

re: ancillary justice, haha i wouldn't have been surprised if you'd read it because it does have a lot of your fav tropes going on, and i def think it's worth revisiting!! i didn't like books 2 and 3 as much as the first, but there's still some really fascinating stuff in there.

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