rhodochrosite | i have been aware of THE KILLER since birth

my life has not been the same ever since i saw <THIS VIDEO> and then <THIS TWEET> so in this post i will go through some of my favourite Killers per my personal use of the term as it has evolved. not all people who kill are The Killer, it has a very specific set of connotations to me including: wealth, charm, beauty, severe psychological issues, beauty, generosity, manipulativeness, reliance on persona, association with predator animals, being a top, general sociopathy, and also beauty. it's also a gender neutral term but since i exclusively read trashy supernatural het romance young adult fiction i lack examples of girls who are The Killer (suggestions welcome). i AM basically using The Killer as shorthand for a general type of ya love interest which you will probably recognise instantly if you have even a passing familiarity with the genre.

anyway here are The Killers in question, i thought this would be a list of fictional characters who remind me of jaemin but not all of them ended up on here:

NA JAEMIN (NCT)
you know what he looks like

clearly rich as hell considering his rotation of fuckoff expensive and exclusive luxury watches (collecting watches is inherently a rich person trait imo) and his habit of generously showering other members with $$$ gifts, though he claims not to be which is just such a blatant LIE it is only further proof of Killerism
bermuda triangle face so handsome it's unreal he doesn't need to clock in because his face does it for him. his face is effortlessly hitting every kpi on its own his face has won employee of the month for like 3 years running. even if i wanted to be mad i couldn't be because every time i see him i instantly forget whatever just happened due to the dark sorcery powering his appearance. gets kinda unnerving sometimes
extremely You Are Not Coming In, incredible ability to say a lot while divulging literally nothing about himself, these days doesn't even bother to dress up the fact that he is deflecting
obsessively possessive over his inner circle, gets sulky and jealous when he perceives that he's being neglected but also gets uncomfortable when people are emotionally sincere at him, because he has serious control issues and dislikes not being able to dictate his own image. he doesn't want to react he only wants to initiate
i've talked about jaemin idolsona 5000 times but the Conceal Everything persona stuff is all basically visible from space. another manifestation of his control issues
fansign boyfriendisms impeccable, diverting every interview into Love For Czennies treatise #54984845 impeccable
conscious habit of staring people in the mouth instead of the eyes is definitely a sign of Killerism as well
seems to have daddy issues (never mentions him, only ever speaks warmly about his mother) which i didn't initially think was a trait of The Killer but for some reason pops up repeatedly in this list? so i guess it is
happy baby snake face and also unhinges jaw to eat prey whole
1.0
mansplain manipulate malewife

YOO JUNG (CHEESE IN THE TRAP)

megarich chaebol heir, also happens to have a watch-collecting hobby
SOOOOOOO SO SO HANDSOME and fashionable, extremely popular with boys and girls alike but especially girls it seems
straight up a sociopath, near-flawlessly models social courtesy and generosity in order to evade suspicion and stay well-liked so he can orchestrate his schemes when he wants to, but has no actual moral compass (until he meets seol and decides to set her as his new moral compass)
cold and manipulative as fuckkkkkk you never know whether he says/does something because he means it or because it's what he thinks the other person wants to hear or because he's setting someone up to do his dirty work for him but without ever lifting a finger or saying anything that could outright be traced back to him
possessive, only likes the people he likes and will go to great lengths to secure their affection, hates the people he hates so much he will ruin their lives over the smallest things via indirect manipulation of others. no remorse whatsoever for actions causing severe physical and psychological harm to others even if it turns out he was wrong
mostly uses other people to enact his revenge plans but one time he personally beat the shit out of a guy who was stalking seol and nearly killed him, then promptly flipped into caring attentive boyfriend mode when he saw seol, and did not realise this was disturbing behaviour at all. he is so The Killer it's unreal
strong association in-story with predator animals, particularly snakes: "he will eat me up whole," anyone?
can get childish and sulky especially when his favourite people (it's really just seol) aren't paying attention to him
a really really good boyfriend after the toxicity between him and seol starts clearing up (and honestly even when they were at their peak toxicity)
loves his mother, hates his father
1.0
LITERALLY A BUSINESS MAJOR can i make it any more obvious

ECHIZEN RYOGA (PRINCE OF TENNIS)

doesn't come from old money like most of the rest of this list but is clearly involved in shady criminal dealings that fund his international wanderer lifestyle, even outside of the gambling fraud he was committing in cruise the movie. the echizens obviously aren't poor by any stretch of the term either
echizen ryoga is a very handsome young man. super charming and flirty also. 2021 tenirabi valentine's event has killed more people than all the volcanoes on earth combined
hasn't explicitly committed any murders that we know of but i wouldn't be surprised, considering that in cruise he was working for a guy who didn't hesitate to shoot real actual bullets at middleschoolers and didn't bat an eye the whole time. i think in terms of literal crime he's more of a con artist type, but in terms of tennis he has probably the most indiscriminately destructive superpower ever because he eats other people's superpowers, causing them to permanently lose the ability to play. relatedly(?) his presence in any team causes it to begin destabilising because his existence is inherently corrosive or something. he doesn't even need to TRY in order to be The Killer. not that he displays any remorse over his actions, intended or not
inner circle consists of one person (his brother) and his complex in that direction is insane, he truly doesn't care about anything else. he sabotaged his own gambling operation for ryoma, he saved seigaku for ryoma, he came to u17 for ryoma, he defected to team usa and then to team spain for ryoma
in fact has like 2 personality traits outside of his obsession with ryoma (liking oranges, liking naps). The Killerism...
serious serious daddy issues... nanjiro took him in because he had tennis talent but only if he promised not to play ryoma at full strength until ryoma had finished developing as a player, because nanjiro didn't want ryoga to eat ryoma. and yet ryoga doesn't bear any resentment towards ryoma for being the favourite, he's just totally devoted to him
i think he has a bit of a fixation on not owing things / reciprocating? eg 2021 tenirabi valentine's event "don't worry, i'll repay you sixfold on white day," leaving team usa for spain to prevent their team from disintegrating and only eating his ex-captain instead of the whole team out of gratitude for their care for ryoma. in that sense he's really generous but he's generous in a way that's like, umm... dubcon... if you know you know
speaking of 2021 tenirabi valentine's event the manipulationskdfjsgkjfgkjsfdgdfkhjgf Again if you know you know
a shark... TO ME
1.0 though i think he might be open to pegging since he seems pretty adventurous. but like, seriously megachad megatop

ATOBE KEIGO (PRINCE OF TENNIS)

horrifically rich heir to the Atobe Conglomerate. basically runs hyotei academy, has a private helicopter, literally owns a castle in england, styles himself King of Hyotei and actually pulls it off with his leadership and tennis skills, every exaggerated rich person trope ever applies to him
i think using oresama 1pp is a Killer trait
very handsome and arrogant, has a large fanclub in-universe and still regularly ranks very highly in yumejoshi lists irl despite being from a franchise over 2 decades old
control issues manifest in ostentatious displays of generosity and magnanimity eg: helping seigaku train and mentoring ryoma as a favour to tezuka (and then just becoming obsessed with ryoma anyway), multiple gifts of training equipment to fudomine, all the luxury renovations to hyotei for the benefit of the entire school, the whole movie atobe's gift, etc etc
being a highranker on the tenipuri competitive circuit automatically makes you a killer even if not a capital K killer and definitely means there are a lot of things wrong with you psychologically speaking, but atobe also likes to fuck with his opponents by forcing them into drawn-out stamina competitions intended to destroy their physical health potentially permanently, so he's especially Killeristic. see: pushing tezuka into a near career-ending injury in his first onscreen match in the funniest and deadliest manifestation of pulling your crush's pigtails on the school playground ever
as the atobecorp heir he's been media image trained since birth probably and he has a very tight grip on his projected persona of faultless dominating king
hyotei is cliquey as hell, the most private school girls team out of the entirety of tenipuri imo, though atobe is a pretty fair king and still allocates attention to his other subjects. it's pretty obvious he has tennis team favouritism tho
1.0
being a libra man is inherently Killeristic

KIRYU KYOSUKE (YUGIOH 5DS)

not rich, is in fact actively seeking to kill the rich
still handsome though
super charismatic leader who steadily grew more and more unhinged until he went totally off the rails, killed a guy for real, got murdered by police, came back to life as the vessel of an omnicidal god in order to enact revenge with a side of genocide and apocalypse wreaking. the psychological issues speak for themselves. also one of the few Killers who did actually kill someone onscreen
overwhelming desire for control and power is what led to the splintering of team satisfaction, who were happy to go along with his vision and leadership until he got too obsessive and pushed too hard and crow and jack were no longer willing to follow (yusei too martyr complexed and head over heels in love to leave at this point)
loved his team so so much until he perceived that they had betrayed him and then hated them so so much it fuelled his resurrection
since we only ever see his flawless persona control era in flashback and in the current timeline he's either fully vengeance-blinded maniac or despairingly stricken with guilt and ptsd, he doesn't come off as persona savvy as some other Killers on this list but i do think he always had the murderousness he just used to be better at hiding it. i also think that post second resurrection the sadism is still there even tho he's "reformed"
we literally know NOTHING about his past before he showed up in satellite one day and was like Hey wanna form a vigilante team and change the world with me? to yusei/crow/jack, so people are definitely Not Coming In
around a 0.9 though i don't think anyone in 5ds is topping him since it's a bit of a Whoops All Bottoms cast
being a scorpio man is also inherently Killeristic

ALEC (TWILIGHT)

this is my list so i will put whoever i want on it including random minor characters from vampire romance ya fiction. as if it's my fault alec from the volturi was classically The Killer in all the reneslec fic i read on ffn when i was 11
in canon his two personality traits are that he's a member of the volturi (so a literal cold blooded killer) and super super beautiful
probably really rich since vampires are all rich and since he's part of the vampire royalty cabal that doubly applies. probably really arrogant for the same reasons
his superpower is sensory deprivation so i think it is not a stretch to read control issues into that
this passage from my sacred reneslec text 'dusk' by seph meadowes: Even though I was already quite comfortable with him, that lightheaded feeling always seemed to be there when in his presence and that feeling of danger and fear I knew was never going to go away. Everything about Alec just seemed to scream predator. He wasn't the type of predator that charged at you with fangs and claws out ready to draw blood. He was like a snake, just coiled and ready to spring at the right time.
unknown if daddy issues but like, probably
1.0 WHATEVER

JOHN QUINN (NIGHT WORLD)

probably rich since he is vampire royalty
really handsome, uses physical attractiveness and somewhat unhinged charm to lure human prey in so he can run a slave trade for vampires
known for being particularly ruthless, uptight and cold even among other vampires
obviously kills people for real, no moral qualms about it
his dad killed his vampire fiancee back in the 1600s but also like father-in-law issues since said fiancee's dad was the one who turned him into a vampire and has been his boss/king ever since then. until he illegally falls in love with a human lol
1.0 why not

well that was long as fuck but thanks for reading... if you know of any other killers feel free to let me know ^__^

pt 2 now here!!

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From:

leeseokmin

thank you for a list of people to look out for. avoiding all kjllers and kjller traits from now on

From:

rhodochrosite

Ok more killers for me 😄

From:

sarcoline

- first off the "u know what he looks like" ok true but also damn. not even one (1) picture? (just kidding ik it's probably because again his memory wipe so handsome beautiful face would've been detrimental to the process of actually completing this post—at least it would be for me but also im njmfcker69 so like. ummm. anyway)
- LOL when i clicked on a link and it turned out to be my own tweet ctfu i really be 1picking killers out here most notably ummmm na jaemin...idek if i have anything to add on jemmin because as we know my njm chaebol theory is quite literally not just a "theory" anymore but also we basically agree on everything and have both also talked about njm idolsona 100000x on tl and to each other and to cc anons at large, like conclusion is he is a beautiful killer!!
- business student snake habitat things but the kpi bit made me laugh like its true... jaemin face carrying the sm stock prices rn it's true!
- how funny that i do also have a few njm daddy issues ccs pending in my inbox rn can't wait to dissect that... 😭like we've said so much of him is just. so open to speculation. again has to do with how he never tells us anything but even then it's like Oh? So It's Like That... the weird-ass pithy "family might not always be there" statement like. i know i'm on my 3rd business day but i still am not done processing that.
>obsessively possessive over his inner circle, gets sulky and jealous when he perceives that he's being neglected but also gets uncomfortable when people are emotionally sincere at him, because he has serious control issues and dislikes not being able to dictate his own image. he doesn't want to react he only wants to initiate
- this is rly the crux of it tbh if u understand this u understand jaemin lmao and it gives such a solid basis/reasoning of why he is so performative/is so Jaemin... ash to give jaemsona 101 crashcourse when!
- also "happy baby snake face and also unhinges jaw to eat prey whole" is quite possibly my favorite description of him. i know i have been proselytizing jaemin reptile agenda on the tl all day everyday but like. he rly is snake gijinka (kind of the killer in this one too)... it's true... and u know who is also snake gijinka?

- jung. you already know the lengths i have gone to ummm psychoanalyze this man (at the tender age of *teen on tumblr ctfu embarrassing asf) but this rly only proves that i have been consistent since ever!! jung really is the killer so much.
- ctfu at the watch collecting hobby i didn't even notice/forgot but now that u mention it... esp the fact he broke it in an altercation while being the killer (iirc)?? hmmm.
- um not to be comparing every single man in this post to jaemin but "he will eat me up whole" is so very jaemin vibes too when he gives people that LOOK, you know the one. like they are both apex predators. and the gets childish and sulky IS THAT NOT JAEMIN IN EVERY DVD EVER... esp the r^nmin one jesus christ.
- and the last point jung business major jaemin fanon businessmajorsona like is that a coincidence? i think not.

ok now headed into completely unfamiliar territory: tennis...

>he eats other people's superpowers, causing them to permanently lose the ability to play. relatedly(?) his presence in any team causes it to begin destabilising because his existence is inherently corrosive or something.
- ok holy shit what are they putting in the tennis?? bc this sounds like the most hardcore shit i've ever heard like if i had any doubt he was the killer this would squash it he's literally toxic to his own teammates, that's powerful.
>LIKING ORANGES LIKING NAPS
- how is he real. well he's not but u know. how.
>only if he promised not to play ryoma at full strength until ryoma had finished developing as a player, because nanjiro didn't want ryoga to eat ryoma.
- the BROTHER COMPLEX i cant believe.... wow... incredible this is so incredibly delicious i might have to start consuming tennis for it wtf.
>in that sense he's really generous but he's generous in a way that's like, umm... dubcon... if you know you know
- this is the sexiest thing i have ever heard... like. um. ok. not saying im taking this and rotating it for au (is it au at this point tho) jaemin but like. not NOT saying that either.
>1.0 though i think he might be open to pegging since he seems pretty adventurous. but like, seriously megachad megatop
- unrelated to anything at all but this killed me

- I HAVE HEARD ABOUT ATOBE being jaemin or whatever but wow i did not know it was Like This.
>likes to fuck with his opponents by forcing them into drawn-out stamina competitions intended to destroy their physical health potentially permanently,
- ummmm this is scary but also PREDATOR THINGS... planning the long con except its not a con it's just slowly painfully delaying the inevitable?? so scary. and to think this is all in combination with his beautiful rich handsome face... and the yumejoshi-isms.....ok tennis jaemin
- ok after reading both of these tennis killers this might be off-base and completely stupid question but is ryoma protag like mark lee is protag? in that everybody seems to have an obsession or complex re: his general existence???

- [knows nothing about yugioh] i love how kiryu subverts some of the basic killerisms while also still being charismatic killer nonetheless...
>super charismatic leader who steadily grew more and more unhinged until he went totally off the rails, killed a guy for real, got murdered by police, came back to life as the vessel of an omnicidal god in order to enact revenge with a side of genocide and apocalypse wreaking
- i just wanted u to know at no point in time while i was reading this did i have any idea of where this bullet point was going to go. but also i will say this added to my impression of u given that yugioh is something u clearly enjoy a lot like ah. i understand completely. ummmm it's positive i promise.
- to be honest the yugioh one was the most ~incomprehensible~ one to me (not the fault of anyone but me like this is purely on a "i need context for these things to make sense" basis) but to be fair i am already familiar with sportsani and i suppose yugioh IS also sports/game ish but it's not. like. the same degree of adjacent to haikyuu that tennis is. u know? its difference.

- ok i barely have comment on ummm alec except so true

- another vampire related media i also have no other comment but like vampires are killers its true. statistically speaking u will find more Killers in vampire media that's how the math works. I think.

- actually haibara being the killer is saur true, although my kneejerk reaction was nooo not her!!! but. i get it. when girls are killers its different. its most special thing in the world.
- haibara being beautifullest cool hauty morally grey kuudere of the world is so important to me... like she is so cool and obviously protective over her real feelings but does it in a way that is so ummmm endearing to me. the tell me kudo-kun kills me she's like "what would u do if i was the killer? which i am but not in the way that currently matters to u. but i am the killer tho. but also u need me the killer to help u find ur killers so what are you gonna do, kudo-kun?" sorry for not making sense but this is what haibara sounds like in my head.

- im trying to think of other killer traits but i think u really have them covered like trying to hold back my scorpio monkey brain that seeks out toxicity like a coke addict but truly "wealth, charm, beauty, severe psychological issues, beauty, generosity, manipulativeness, reliance on persona, association with predator animals, general sociopathy, and also beauty" is like a checklist of sorts for me i hope for everyone sake but most importantly my own i get well soon but also i know that i will never change never improve so <\3 it is like that... i know there are a subset of a few people who are Killer-adjacent but not quite killers tho...like maybe if they tick off 4-7 of the 9 traits listed above they could be considered killer-adjacent?? killer-lite, if u will?? almost-killers?? potential killers??? i would say ummm oikawa has a few of the traits (charm, beauty, manipulativeness, reliance on persona) as does ummm kaito even tho one of the main points in the series is that kaito is Not A Killer but um. he Could be. is the thing. ok i think that's it for killer adjacents for now.

onto more Killers — gojo satoru from jujukai is the killer as well (charm beauty severe psychological issues, generosity, manipulativeness, reliance on persona, apex predator) but i think he especially embodies the trait of like persona in a very specific idgaf way, like keeping his enemies and friends alike on guard bc he is so wildly unpredictable and overpowered that he doesn't have to care about the consequences? and so when he is Serious, it catches everybody off guard and he ends up being the Winner. omg this comment has no semblance of structure but now that i think about it Winning is a very important aspect of being the killer like i guess that is self-evident, but they are always trying to maximize their potential to win, whether that is through the art of normalperson disguise or gaslight gatekeep manipulations or blinding other people via so handsome so beauty face. life to them is usually like a zerosum game where if they do not win they are losing and so it makes sense that other people have to be losing for them to win. but of course they are the only ones who can know this and think about it like this so they spend the entire time pretending that it is Not Like That to them even tho it clearly is.

racking my brain for other killers or even killer-adjacents but like i have not consumed enough ummm anime/fictional character content in the past few months to retain anymore relevant meta lmao!! conclusion is i would not trust these men (not ai tho ai has rights) within an inch of my life to be anything but perfect conmen but even with this awareness i would still willingly get conned bc um i know myself and know that my estimated wait-time to falling victim to stockholm syndrome (as per tiktoks we have talked about) is ummmmm perhaps a week a best. sometimes you are diseased and thats okay. thank u for the Killer scholarship dearest ash! and apologies in advance for the meandering drivel 😭

Edited Date: 2021-07-12 11:41 am (UTC)

From:

rhodochrosite

transcript of real footage from alternate universe where i did decide to insert a jaempic:
>hmm i think i will find a suitable jaemin image to illustrate my point
[3 hours of jaemin pics twitter acc media scrolling later]
>Wow jaemin is so handsome beautiful perfectface. what was i doing again? it cant have been that important

AND THEN THIS POST WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN POSTED!!! but ofc i had to link to your fundamental work in the jaemin killer field 😚 youre basically co inventor kdfjhg its true that we have literally gone over everything there is to say about jaemin idolsona jaemin chaebol jaemin family tinhatting a million times on various online platforms but i will never get tired of saying it... JAEMIN IS THE KILLER!!! the ur-killer, even.... damn its still so crazy he just straight up said that U Cant Take For Granted That Ur Family Will Always Be There line just like that does he not know we are rotating ourselves dizzy over here taking into account the pointed absence of information volunteered about his dad!

i honestly think that jaemin is really transparent if you understand the key handful of psychological complexes he hinges on (which YOU do ofc) so ive never rly gotten why people say hes hard to understand im making a na jaemin for dummies slideshow to present to mark lee RN. hes so funny. the HOW DARE U NOT KNOW ME!! but also HOW DARE U TRY TO KNOW ME!! he is constantly exhibiting lol

i love our convergent evolution reptile najaem agenda... my friend used to have this thread of autotranslated kr tweets about jaemin which is where i thinkkk i got happy baby snake face from... other gems from that thread that i remember: chromosome; snow weapon; handsome gobl; did you eat jano? i am now at the shareholders meeting (<- THIS ONE WAS VERY GOOD. business majors be like)

the jung<->jaemin parallels seriously unreal i crave ur cinematic vision of jeno outside the alley where jaemin beats a guy close to death for scaring jeno. i know i spent 3/4 of my reread lt thread comparing jung to jaemin but like they are the same GLAD U AGREE!!! the watch collecting killed me instantly and its very telling that jung immediately started only wearing the one seol got him as soon as she gifted it (except for the fake one he purposefully wore to fuck up sangchuls finances and life)... guys who attach strong sentiment to material objects also a killer trait? jung also got kinda sulky when seol didn't wear the hairclip he got her JAEMIN REALNESS

ECHIZEN RYOGA... has killed more mes than all the volcanoes on earth combined (and is the cv: mamoru miyano in question). pure essence of asshole ya bad boy love interest its not my fault. he is actually an original character invented by one of the standalone movies (SO IF U EVER HAVE LIKE 90MINS SPARE AND UR BORED... tho he wasnt voiced by mamo in his originating movie statistically speaking u will find more Killers in vampire media that's how the math works I AGREE but what is it about vampires that makes them so full of Killers when yugioh is also full of killers but light on Killers... vampires are just inherently sxc in a Killer way i guess... the tropes blend too well together

HAIBARA is allowed to be the killer in any capacity (real, fake, ex, whatever) <3 "what would u do if i was the killer? which i am but not in the way that currently matters to u. but i am the killer tho. but also u need me the killer to help u find ur killers so what are you gonna do, kudo-kun?" no this is it exactly tho!!!!!! when ur work wife helps u out by being ur henchman which to her involves acting like shes going to murder u <33

ok im interested in exploring the Killer-lite realm bc when i put this post tgt i was running thru my list of guys who remind me of jaemin which ofc includes oikawa and kaito but they didnt hit some of what i felt were vital Killer traits so i left them off. focuses more on the persona and charm (and maybe narratively antagonistic?) part of Killerism than the lack of moral code / inclination towards murder/violence, perhaps? tho its funny that jaemin is the core Killer example while theoretically fitting better into this adjacent field... his psychological complexes just be so heavy and his business major energy hardcarries. Omg ykw... if our current shinkai / shinkaishin but default shinkai hypothesis holds maybe topness is also a key indicator of Killerism and being lower on the scale pushes u more towards Killer-lite........

oohhh the gojo example is interesting i never thought about the potential for Killers to weaponise persona in an explicitly unhinged way rather than the tightly controlled way the other ppl on this list do but it IS still persona fuckery and control issues!! and it IS about winning / achieving personal goals / conceptualising things as a zerosum game i like this framing so much. if they do not win they are losing and so it makes sense that other people have to be losing for them to win hall of fame Killer psychology remark!!! also quick q is gojo a top

AS U KNOW I AM EXTREMELY NOT UNSUSCEPTIBLE TO THE KILLER MYSELF the way this post doubles up as my yume list 😐 ur scorp sun 🤝 my scorp mars as if its our fault Killer traits r so sxc??????? but thank u for this very thought provoking response we r making important and groundbreaking findings in the field of Killerism <333

Edited Date: 2021-07-12 02:56 pm (UTC)

From:

sarcoline

first off, co-inventor im Honored!! mich phd ready to break into another field of study...

scream truly the U Cant Take For Granted That Ur Family Will Always Be There line is like the source of approximately 10 asks in my inbox rn im like damn i haven't even organized my thoughts on this yet... What Is The Truth... jaemin always breeds more ???? confusion with his answers it feels like hilbert's hotel of questions with this man, the mysteries literally never ever end.

seriously.. starting a crash course on jaemin in google slides as we speak for everyone who needs one (90% of ficdom + mark lee) IA the how dare u know/not know me is the funniest thing on the planet like he is constantly getting petty and mock-hurt but probably actually a little hurt when people don't know shit about him or are distant~ish from him but then he doesn't let them in?? like hello bud u need to let people in for them to know u... thats how this works...

chromosome: help???? um. he sure does have them
snow weapon: snow is pretty and weapons are deadly perfect for the Killer
handsome gobl: choosing to read this as handsome goblin which he is
did you eat jano?: VORE... certainly falls under killeristic tendencies... fic where jaemin constantly struggles between wanting to eat and fxck jeno... ok sorry im just idficing in ur comments now
i am now at the shareholders meeting: sldkjfslf not only business majors but also na jaemin chaebol be like???

LMAO my cinematic vision of jeno outside the alley where jaemin beats a guy close to death for scaring jeno is truly something huh!!! maybe when i finally write jm as the Killer of my dreams in a problematique toxic ya-esque jmjn au it'll happen.. jeno trembling in fear and metaphorically winded from whiplash as jaemin turns on the boyfriend cosplay like it's nothing is something that can be so personal... jaemin getting jeno a watch and getting sulky when he doesnt wear it!! i am connecting the dots!!!! (also suddenly remembering jaemin talking about the shoes he gave mark in a recent recording diary even tho he bought that for him literally YEARS ago.... like ok... I See...)

OFC RYOGA IS VOICED BY MAMOCHAN.... mamo is literally singlehandedly wiping me out via beautiful killeristic two dimensional men... MAYBE ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN I HAVE 90MIN... hmmm.

vampires being sxc in a Killer way so true thats why jaemin vampire is also another one of my cinematic visions (as it is for a lot of people im sure but. i still have to say it). if 10k of vampire fic mysteriously appears in the jaemjen markjaemjen tag . um u know who it is. anyway.

seriously haibara one of my top picks altho i just love most of the cast rn.. ofc kaitojaem is 1pick but she is up there. again i love girls that are cool, cool girls etc etc the kuudere killer posturing etc SO PERFECT. TO ME.

yes i agree! re:the narratively antagonistic as opposed to being morally depraved/questionable as differentiating btwn Killer-lite and Killer... jaemin is just so jaemin tho like u know realistically he is not killing anybody but metaphorically he has killed so many people so many times over.. and these crimes cannot be forgiven to the extent that would delegate him to Killer-lite... so Killer he is..

okkk honestly. now that i think of it maybe gojo more Killer-lite?? like he has the capacity to be Killer Killer but i think he is not as top as i think most Killers r (mostly bc his designated pairing sugusato has him as a bottom. to me. but like in every other pairing he is a top. so. like it's a little bit of a conundrum. u know. he's like 0.8 i guess!! but that -0.2 so impt...) I KNOW its kind of silly to ummm base this on top/bottomness but it is what it is also he's not evil. like he's overpowered most powerful man of the world but he is not Evil. not Evil as in villain like evil in the way which i think all Killers are. will have to think about this further bc like for all intents and purposes he fits the most of the boxes but LIKE.... the whole 0.8 situation really be shaking up my societies rn...

also winning is so impt yes!! i love that u agree and love the zerosum framing i just rly think its how people with psychological issues and sociopathic tendencies perceive the world... like utilitarian and ummm transactional like they r really stone cold and assholes. but handsome and pretty and beautiful and charming so like. they win. they always win. goddamn.

licherally scorp h^rny placements have killed more people than all volcanoes.... thank u for equally thought provoking response to my response!! glad 2 break ground in this new field with a fellow scholar <3

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rhodochrosite

jm wants the rewards but not the mortifying ordeals smh u cannot have benefits without burdens! but SO GLAD UR GETTING THE SAME JOY OUT OF THE AUTOTRANSLATIONS AS I DID, i think the best part is did you eat jano? i am now at the shareholders meeting was actually a single caption so it really was like How Did They Know.... jaemin is killer, jaemin consumes the things he wants (jeno) (JAEMIN IS VAMPIRE), jaemin is business major, jaemin is chaebol heir... ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!! perfect <3 eagerly anticipating ao3 user boytears sexily toxic ya jmjn with Killer jm dropping off metaphorical and/or literal dead pigeons at jenos doorstep as courting gifts <3

omg i do wish id waited like a little longer to make this post because VERMOUTH is so obviously The Killer present tense i would love to have included her here too... i love haibara soooo much tho she may be onepick material for me fr we will see :D haibara may actually be more killer-lite but i really wanted girls representation in this post metaphorically he has killed so many people so many times over.. and these crimes cannot be forgiven to the extent that would delegate him to Killer-lite SO TRUE OP jaemin has killed more yumejoshi than all the volcanoes on earth combined. THIS IS WHY JAEMIN IS ULTIMATE KILLER even tho other Killers have actually killed people

hmmmm interesting!!! the gojo bottom in sugusato but top in all other ships is the vibe i had been getting from my jjk tl... this is actually really funny to me skfdjgskjfdghj but i think being a top literally is one of the critical points of being The Killer alongside the villainousness u know i am always guy who takes left/right assignment very very seriously... the -0.2 really is important i agree!!

utilitarian and ummm transactional like they r really stone cold and assholes. but handsome and pretty and beautiful and charming so like. they win. i agree so much perfect Killer description <3 U GET IT U REALLY GET IT

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prizefig

i'm trying to come up with any other killers i'm aware of but i may not be susceptible enough to this type and also i can't remember any media property i've ever consumed in my life so forgive me for hypmicing in your inbox but i must:

- oresama 1pp as a killer trait doesn't hold true for samatoki, despite being beautiful and unhinged and likely having committed multiple actual homicides, because he doesn't really have a charming persona and is not really manipulative since he can achieve most of his goals with physical violence. and his assigned animal association is a horse.
- you could argue ramuda is the killer since he meets most of the criteria, except for predator animal association, but the persona in question isn't really the suave and chic type so it feels more like a trope subversion than played straight.
- rei is a classic killer with 30 years more mileage on him, the beauty point is debatable if dilfs are not your visual type but he's checking every other box in spades
- i want to argue for honobono as an example of a female killer but she's such a minor character that it's hard to tell, she literally doesn't even have a canon design yet. she is definitely violently sociopathic, manipulative, a top, and affects an over the top sweet persona while doing her violently sociopathic manipulative top activities.

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rhodochrosite

his assigned animal association is a horse just made me die umm im sorry to hear that about samatoki </3 slaughterers a la akutsu are welcome too tho the subject of a different post... also i did kinda assume based on vibes/visuals that jyuto might have been The Killer but i literally do know nothing. re: ramuda predator animal association isnt too important of a criteria point to me but i was saying in my reply to another friend that i didnt think about Killer types who dont use their persona to project a cool and controlled image but go for some other image instead 🤔 i guess cutesy image would count as well but also key to being The Killer is desirability which i ummm dont think ramuda is going for. expansions to the field of Killerism tho... ill think about it some more. sdkjfkfdjgj dilfs are not my visual type but i appreciate the future vision of The Killer i hope rei had less facial hair when he was younger 🙏 also i literally have alec from twilight on my list and honobono definitely seems to exist more than him considering that she like speaks and has lines so [bangs gavel] Shes The Killer!!!

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prizefig

the left horse in question 😔 he defs is more of an akutsu type tho, ur right... jyuto is less of a killer than you would assume at first, he's kind of not even unhinged or sociopathic really, most of his corrupt cop activities amount to blackmail and taking bribes + his ultimate goal is like pretty noble and earnest lol so he kind of has the aesthetics of a killer but without any of the actual killerism to back it up.

ramuda's whole thing is desirability actually, cindi litr described him as "the mythical tiktok femboy predator who wears skirts to appear non-threatening to women" which is so true and he is canonically the only character who is referenced to be hooking up with mob onnas on a regular basis, so it's just a different model of desirability.

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rhodochrosite

kshfdgksjf i rly do be like *is wrong about hypmic* *is wrong about hypmic* tho saying that i thought jyuto might be a killer based on aesthetics reminded me that yagyuu may also be a killer including like the actual sociopathy but like ultimately one of the criteria im evaluating on tho i didnt outright say it is my personal yumejoshi tastes and i am not yume for yagyuu

i truly did not know that about ramuda ok i see... not my type tho so i will still be gatekeeping him from original flavour killerism too sorry

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permutative

this post was sooo fun and interesting thank you for sharing T___T also this made me want to think of female killers but ngl the only one i can think of at the moment is from a KDRAMA... it's called run on and the character in question is seo danah (played by snsd sooyoung), she's kind of insane but in the ways you articulated in the beginning i.e. she's a chaebol heir and manipulative and beautiful and kind of a psychopath but like in a good way (?? or at least an entertaining way...) and she definitely has daddy issues LMFAO T__T (tfw ur dad fakes the birthday of your younger step-brother in order to make him get the inheritance??? like what). the female lead in run on is kind of scared of her which you can see in this gifset. idk though!! ty as always for the interesting dw content i'm rhodochrosite fan <3

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rhodochrosite

^__^ im glad u enjoyed the fruits of my increasing unhingedness!!! <3 ok definitely adding danah to List - The Killer ✨ that gifset is sooooo good if snsd sooyoung winked at me i would also die on the spot... thank u for increasing my Killer mental bank!!!